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10k race one week before triathlon

 
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Should I run the 10k one week before the Triathlon?
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LaRochelle



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 12:46 am    Post subject: 10k race one week before triathlon Reply with quote

June 11 is Standard Life 10k in Mont-Royal Park. My parents would be in town and could watch me at the finish line.

June 19 is Mont-Habitant Triathlon (700m, 30km, 8km)

I have never raced in a 10k. Could I do it without affecting the triathlon? Is one week enough to recover? It took me two weeks to recover from NCM Half last year but I am in better shape this time.

Off course, I am really competitive and would do my best. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're young....fit....and energetic. I say GO FOR IT! Just take it easy the rest of the week leading up to the Tri.

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm abstaining...

I think a 10k race is a fine idea, but would be better 2 weeks in advance. They say for every mile raced to take it easy 1 day. So, if you were planning on a nice easy taper you should be great.

On the Con side. This race is supposed to be quite challenging, so it could tire you out more than desired. Also isn't this the weasel race that insists on calling itself a 'marathon'? For that reason alkone I believe that RR people should boycott it! Laughing

If the triathlon is a high priority race, don't bother with an incompently run 10k. If it's a leadup to an A race, then feel free to play with the schedule.
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Sir_Crashalot



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take Jim's view on this one. Use this as a tuneup for the big day the following week. Besides, your folks are in town & a finish line reception is quite the blast. Who said you have to run the 10km at full tilt anyways?
I'll be up at Mont Habitant the same weekend for the off-road du-thing with the cyclocross bike Smile with knobby tires (who needs a mountain bike anyways Rolling Eyes )&, more likely than not, back up the the following week for the du-thing (with racing/slick tires!) while you are doing the tri-thing. I'll post up after the 1st event & will let you know about #2 the following week to save you a bus ride.
Of course, I do this just for fun just to see how I will do based on virtually non-existent training. The weekend warrior in me cries for action!

For the honor & glory of being the last man accross the line, CHARGE!!!!!
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vfong



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey LaRochelle, Laughing

You're probably asking the wrong people, to race or not to race .... Shocked Considering I am a person who participated in around 25-28 events last year Embarassed

The 10K road race may actually set you up pretty well for your triathlon, providing you with a mental lift on establishing your 10K race pace potential which would likely be your 8K pace off the bike Wink

Last year, I did 3 events in 7 days, by running in the July 1st 5K, a sprint duathlon July 3rd and another 5K on July 7... And, surprisingly, my 5K on July 7th was my best time Razz and, placing in my Age Group 3, 5 and 7th, respectively. Shorter races (5K and 10K) recovery times are a lot faster than the longer stuff (i.e. 1/2 Marathon, Marathon, 1/2 IM and Full IM's)...

Take care and happy racin' .... andy ;o) Peace !!!
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ladechat



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 10k race one week before triathlon Reply with quote

LaRochelle wrote:
Off course, I am really competitive and would do my best. Twisted Evil


I abstained from voting, but will provide this perspective:

There are many ways of "doing your best". Do your "best" while keeping in mind that you have a sprint tri to race the following weekend. Maybe this means giving 85% instead of 100%. If you do the 10K at 100%, you might not have 100% left to give in the tri (maybe only 90%). Only you know that for sure.

10K can be a really good tune-up as it will likely take you about 1/3 of the time that the tri will take you. Maybe take the week before the 10K as a really easy/recovery week since you'll be racing two weekends in a row.

You know yourself best. Which race is more important to you?
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kat00_ca



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As discussed above, it'd be better to run the 10k two weeks before the triathlon.

That being said, you can still certainly run the 10k, although I may suggest not to do it at an all-out pace. You can use this race as a tempo race just so you have an idea of how to pace yourself for the 8k race the following week.

Mind you, this is just another option. Ultimately, it's up to you.

Hope that helps you out...

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A taper for a high priority race takes at least two weeks. That said in past years (when I had more time for training and racing) I have had a few blocks where I raced three weeks in a row and six times in 8 weeks.

The question is really how well do you want to do for the tri? Racing 10 km the week before will leave your body tired for the following week so don't expect your best performance possible.

For my two cents I say by all means race hard both weekends - assuming the triathlon isn't your ultimate goal race. If you're not going to try your best why race? Have an easy week following the 10 km and use any lessons learned (ie. pacing) to have a better tri.
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LaRochelle



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grnsideup wrote:
For my two cents I say by all means race hard both weekends - assuming the triathlon isn't your ultimate goal race. If you're not going to try your best why race? Have an easy week following the 10 km and use any lessons learned (ie. pacing) to have a better tri.


Yeah, these are secondary races. My main race will be Montréal Half-Ironman on September 17.

So, even if I am not at my best for the tri, it's not that bad. I think I will register.
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jrichards



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how did the race(s) go?
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ckct



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's dependent on your fitness level and priority of the race.

I don't know your fitness level but I will use my for example.

This summer, i have done a triathlon and a marathon.

So from my fitness level, the 10 k i can run it and still be able to recover for the tri.

If I take the tri as a priority A race (race till i puke etc.), then I would take it easy on the 10 k (say 7/10 on effort pereceived).

If this is your first tri (which it ain't..if u are doing a 1/2 IM in sept), then i don't see any reason for not doing both. If u are not fit to do both, then 1/2 IM will be even more challegning.....but u are young so that's good Smile

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Side note: I am doing two 1/2 IMs next year and i have sprinkle tri every two weeks between them. This way I can get myself more use to the transition and the atmosphere....I am still newbie at this. I am following my training from the Triathlete Bible, by Joe Friel.
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hi_on_running



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this is a secondary race, then I say go for it. I did a 10km (downtown dash 10k) this summer during the week and proceeded to do the Niagara SPrint Tri the following weekend and suffered through it. It was definetely not my best performance but was glad to just finish it.
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