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jclement

Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1177 Location: Trenton
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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I am not sure if Julie has taken that course on food, but she does seem to know a lot about what is in it. I will have to ask her - and also ask her about the strawberry flavouring. She is in Montreal right now for the weekend. She grudgingly comes home for the summer to work but would rather be in Montreal. One time she was showing me around McGill and we saw Dr. Schwarcz in the hallway. Then a couple of weeks later I saw him on Canada A.M. speaking about something Chemistry related (I can't remember what). She has also had Dr. Fennster as her prof for some of her courses. I know she has taken physical chemistry, inorganic chemistry, organic chemistry. I don't remember what else. I just get to foot the bill.
From what you have written, I would imagine you would definitely be a great teacher. Where do you teach? Julie wants to teach high school chemistry and introduce it to her students as it relates to everyday life as well, so that they will hopefully be more interested and pursue it in their post-secondary education. So far she has gotten fantastic reports back on her practice teaching. I have always found chemistry hard to understand (I passed Grade 13 Chemistry by guessing either really well or very luckily on my exams). And her father isn't interested, so who knows where it comes from (further generations back, I guess). _________________ Jane
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jwolf

Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 5261 Location: Sunny Vancouver
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| hi jane- I sent you a pm. |
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i_postwaytoomuch

Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Posts: 2389 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| jenna_runs wrote: |
| I've got some "natural" spring water. This spring water has extremely high arsenic and iron, but is 100% natural. I always laugh when I see labels that say "natural". |
Evian spelled backwards is naive!!
If it's good enough for the Heart and Stroke Fdn then it's good enough for me.....Becel (olive oil) margarine all the way!
Jim _________________ Jim
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iantha
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 45
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| BTW- did your daugther learn about the "natrual" food colour used to colour strawberry ice creams or other red foods? I just learned about that this week. Hint-- don't eat it if you are a strict vegetarian or keep kosher. Otherwise, don't worry-- it's harmless; but it might surprise you! |
Hahaha---I just learned about that too. I always check the label now and I don't buy products that contain it. It might be natural and harmless, but the eeewww!!! factor wins out on that one--at least for me!!  |
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imcivilized

Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 144 Location: Kitchener, ON
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Ok- what do they use for "natural" red flavouring?..
I do know that nice fruity flavours of Jell-o are NOT for vegetarians...  _________________ Brad
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jwolf

Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 5261 Location: Sunny Vancouver
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Ok- what do they use for "natural" red flavouring?.. |
It's a deeply coloured red insect (which I can't remember the name of). It's completely safe to eat, and I will still eat it, but it was quite a surprise! |
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trixiee

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Posts: 1855
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| jwolf wrote: |
| imcivilized wrote: |
Ok- what do they use for "natural" red flavouring?.. |
It's a deeply coloured red insect (which I can't remember the name of). It's completely safe to eat, and I will still eat it, but it was quite a surprise! |
You've got to be KIDDING!!
What word/name should we look for on the label?? Or should we just stop eating anything red/pink?? _________________ "Pain is temporary. Pride is forever."
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jgore
Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Posts: 2930 Location: The Beach
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iantha
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 45
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| If you find out that a product that you like has that colouring in it, you might want to contact the company and ask them to change it. I know there was a local brand of yogurt that was using carmine in their berry flavours, and now I see the label says they use "red cabbage" for natural colour instead. |
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jwolf

Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 5261 Location: Sunny Vancouver
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| trixiee wrote: |
| jwolf wrote: |
| imcivilized wrote: |
Ok- what do they use for "natural" red flavouring?.. |
It's a deeply coloured red insect (which I can't remember the name of). It's completely safe to eat, and I will still eat it, but it was quite a surprise! |
You've got to be KIDDING!!
What word/name should we look for on the label?? Or should we just stop eating anything red/pink?? |
Well, I don't think we should stop eating it (unless your vegan or keep kosher). It's harmless. Really. Just surprising. And like Jim's references show, we'd have go back to farming and hunting our own food if we wanted to truly eliminate these types of things. (If you really want to identify this particular red colouring, "cochineal extract" or "carmie" is what is usually listed in the ingredients.)
I particularly like Jim's second reference which states, "All foods contain chemicals," either things that were originally found in nature, or naturally in the food themselves. Even "toxic" chemicals (like formaldehyde, methanol, and cyanide) are found in many fruits that we eat all the time, but in such small quantities that they are harmless. As I said before, toxicity is dose-dependent.
But the point is that natural doesn't equal safe and unnatural doesn't equal harmful. And natural doesn't always mean it's from what you think it's from. |
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trixiee

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Posts: 1855
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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...as usual, Jim and Jenn putting things in perspective for us!
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rerun

Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 352 Location: Eastern Ontario
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Regarding butter vs hydrogenated vegetable oil, I just came across this story today. It is entitled "The Panic Du Jour: Trans Fats in Foods" and gives a reasonably objective review of the question. The general conclusion is that our dietary intake of saturated fats is so high compared to trans-fats that there is likely more benefits in reducing saturated fats. See full story |
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pfoltz102
Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 50
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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I voted butter, though for a very long time I would have said non-hydrogenated margarine.
Recently I switched when I cut about 90% of the grains and the sugar in my diet due to intestinal distress and that got me thinking about my oils.
If things like lentils and whole wheat bread were giving painful bowel movements could the oils from grains be good for me?
So I cut margarines and all vegetable oils, except for olive and olives, out of my diet, and switched to butter, avocadoes and a teaspoon of fish sourced oil a day.
Olive oil and avocadoes are mainly monounsaturates which both lower LDL (bad Chol) and increase HDL(good Chol)
As for the butter, really when you don't eat bread you find little need for margarine or butter. The same pound of butter will sit in my fridge for more than a month, until I have to throw it out.
My grandparents swear by butter, use it everyday and also eat plenty of vegetables and good sources of protein and neither have a weight problem as they near 80.
Probably it is not going to make a big difference which you choose butter or margarine, as long as you don't choose too often. |
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ivxu

Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 46
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Which is Better - Butter or Non-Hydrogenated Margarine? |
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I hope this works, as I have never made a poll.
I started thinking how my friend came over for supper once and would not eat my corn on the cob, because I only buy non-hydrogenated margarine. |
Why not just eat the corn plain? I eat my corn on the cob and other veggies plain all the time.
For something different, try rubbing lime juice on the corn and then sprinkling it with chilli powder. No fat at all and tasty!
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sjaplo

Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 1089 Location: Abbotsford BC
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't had margerine in the house for 15 years - I think it's pooey!
Just thought I'd add alittle analytical content to the discussion.
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